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Current Replies for DISHONEST Cockapoo breeder in Ellensburg, WA.
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2/19/2010 12:00:29 PM
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We put down a $200 deposit on a 3 wk old cockapoo with a breeder from Ellensburg, WA, who advertised AKC champion parents, OFA, CERF, and Patella cleared. Two days before I picked up the puppy they told me I could have my choice between 2 remaining females. The day I got there they said they sold the other female and I had no choice, this puppy or none (4 days later I verified she still had 2 females available). When I saw the puppy in comparison with the other puppies it appeared there was something wrong with her rear end, and she was the runt (breeder said she was “right in the middle”) to boot. We took her to a vet who said her tail was docked really short. She also has a “roached” back and her legs tuck under her toward her belly instead of under or behind her rear perhaps a fallback from the tail docking? Basically her tail is docked almost completely off. When I asked the breeder about the tail docking and for the paperwork on AKC, CERF, etc. she got very defensive and told me to “shut up or pay up” and “this transaction is done” and refuses to give me any paperwork. Please don’t email that this is a mutt. We knew that and welcomed it going into the deal, just wanted good breeds behind the mutt, but never had a small dog or even one with a docked tail so didn’t know what to look for! I wonder if anyone has any ideas at what we are looking at down the road in terms of the short tail docking and the itching (no fleas, but she was pretty grimy). Also where we can report dishonest breeders like this (not a puppy mill, just liars). At this point we are taken with this puppy and she with us. Thank you!
2/19/2010 8:29:03 PM
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Cockapoo's are Mixed breed there is no way you could get AKC registration on them anyway. The parents might be titled, and registered, but the puppies never will be

Any breeder mixing breeds for not a responsible breeder in my books anyway. Sadly...your pretty much out of luck

Serena Galloway
IGCA rescue Colorado

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2/20/2010 10:05:44 AM
Posts: 6
Put her KENNEL name, her name, her address, phone number, EVERY type of breed she breeds, as well as your experience with her on !!! there's another one online too, look for that one, type in "puppy fraud". Post it for each breed she breeds.

It sounds like she just dumped her problems off on you, instead of being responsible (of course had she been responsible or cared about either breed of the parents, this wouldn't have happened, obviously she doesn't give a hoot about what she's breeding, just wants the money!) so now YOU are responsible for this dog. I always tell my future puppy parents if they decide they can't afford a purebred dog of good breeding, and they consider a mixed breed, GO TO THE SHELTER, your getting the same thing there, it's cheaper, and you pretty much know the same thing about those dogs as you do from the ones you get from a breeder that mixes breeds, nothing!

There are dishonest breeders EVERYWHERE, even members of the breeds parent clubs can be dishonest, people are people and will do as people do! Do your homework, bottom line.

In your NEXT search for a pet, consider rescue if you can't afford a purebred dog, or a shelter. NO responsible breeder will intentionally mix two breeds together, they ARE NOT the "best of both breeds", they can be the WORST of both breeds. What if you get inherited problems from the moms breed and the dads breed? I will tell you, you will SAVE money in the end going to a reputable SHOW breeder, over getting a cheaper dog, you'll save money in medicine and vet costs for sure (they actually care where the pups go, care about the health, and will take the dog back at any time should something happen to you. They keep close tabs on what they breed so if any health problems show up they can remove those dogs from their breeding program or have them tested if there is a test to see if they carry the defective gene).

Shop with your BRAIN, not your heart and leave your wallet at home.
2/20/2010 10:12:17 AM
Posts: 6
Did you end up taking this pup?
This is the reason puppymillers, backyard breeders that breed their bitches every heat cycle and keep their pups in rabbit cages continue to breed. They don't care WHY you take the puppy, if you feel sorry for it, fall in love with it, whatever, they want your money and you to go away so they can go on to breed the next litter. It's a shame but it's people like you that keep them in business and in a good lifestyle.
2/20/2010 11:10:56 AM
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We know this is not a recognized breed, just wanted to verify the AKC on the dam and sire, along with the testing she claimed to have done on hips & eyes.
2/21/2010 6:21:02 AM
Posts: 1
As others have noted,designer dogs are mutts. That is why shelters are full.Our puppies can always come back to us and being responsable for bringing Gods creatures into this world should be thought of as bringing any living creature into this world.
These irresponsable people give PETA and HSUS fuel to go against breeding purebred dogs responsably be it for show or family pet.
Puppies are a lifetime comitment it is great you are taking on the responsability and maybe this will help others see why to buy from responsable breeders-purebred dogs is a better choice.
2/21/2010 6:29:01 PM
Posts: 6
She can tell you whomever she would like is the parents. Who's to say thats really who they are? I find it hard to believe if she has put the money into SHOWING them to make them AKC Champions she would cross the two breeds intentionally. If it was an "oops", it could be the lab down the street that came from the shelter that sired the pups. Showing is expensive, too expensive to breed mutts, but maybe she'as a millionaire and just does it for kicks. Who knows.
If the pups already got problems, you've set yourself up for a lifetime of vet bills and heartache.
2/22/2010 10:16:48 AM
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You are all right. I believed her story, but she's obviously just in it for the money. I think probably most breeders are. We bought an AKC black lab from a breeder with lineage like you wouldn't believe, and by the age of 2 he had such severe hip displacia the vet said it was amazing he could even walk. The breeder said "I owe you a dog, send him back", but of course that was not happening. The second AKC pet we got was more of a 4H project and she was a Golden Retriever and she ended up with bad arthritis, bad knees, and Cushings disease and was gone by 11 1/2 years old. The best dog we ever had was our first and a mix of 1/2 Golden Retriever, 1/4 Redbone hound, 1/4 Yellow lab. She had the best temperament, never strayed, healthy as an ox, and lived 15 years. This time we were looking for a smaller dog, but didn't want one of the toy breeds and this seemed perfect, and hopefully will be. Thanks for all the input!
2/22/2010 11:07:37 AM
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Thanks mickeyej , that's exactly right on the PETA people!!
2/25/2010 11:06:46 AM
Posts: 1
Sad to be the one to inform you that a Cockapoo is NOT an AKC registered breed but rather the product of breedings of a Cocker Spaniel to a Poodle. So by virtue of the fact that the "breeder led you to believe that you were also getting an AKC registerable breed of dog you were basically ripped off on two counts. If you want an AKC registered breed them go to a breeder who breeds AKC purebreed pups and utilizes all the proper health certifications as well. There are a plethora of responsible breeders on this website.

Kathy Miller
Sandy Oak Chesapeakes (since 1973)
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